[New-imc] (en) (fr) Who are new-imc list admins? Qui sont les admins de la liste new-imc ?

[Petros Evdokas]

boud wrote:

> (en)
> The last consensus for new admins was here:
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/new-imc/2007-February/0218-d3.html
> 
> petros??? ameba???  That was six months ago. 



Hello,
Friends, Boud,

Thanks for raising this subject. My last report on it was in March 2007, 
here:
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/new-imc/2007-March/0324-ci.html

The summary is: there was nothing done in that direction. We have been 
ignored. The decisions of the new-imc regarding its own 
self-organization are subject to an invisible mechanism within imc that 
is able to defy the work-group, and not be accountable to anyone.


Additionally:
There were a number of severe personal accusations and political slander 
levelled against me by members of this list in the weeks preceding the 
February decision that Boud refers to above. I feel insulted and 
humiliated by that approach, and there was never an apology or a denial 
of those statements. My credibility and my ability to help as a member 
of the new-imc list suffered greatly, I feel, as a result of those 
statements.

Those statements issued from my approach to dealing with the candidate 
status of imc-Palestine, and imc-Darwin, plus a few more situations into 
which the hostility had "spilled over".

Those statements were never retracted.

If I am to resume any work as a volunteer/helper on new-imc I would like 
to have my status here cleared: there's no way to do any of this work 
without trust. In both directions. Even more so if I were to be helping 
as a list admin.


This applies to all of us, it is not about "me, me, me". The landscape 
needs to be examined for levels of trust, reputation, credibility, etc. 
for everyone, and in my case, there needs to be some repair done.


At the center of various conflicts where unprincipled hostility was 
aimed at me - what is directly or indirectly often attacked - is my 
belief that the work of new-imc is the building of political 
relationships. It is not to just check off items on a form-letter, but 
to use the elements in our application forms (the questions and 
responses) to engage with the new (candidate) groups into a dialogue 
pointed toward building a relationship. That relationship should be able 
to generate collaboration between the various local and global imc 
groups, and be founded on enough trust that will enable our bonds to 
withstand the heat of conflict that we encounter together in the 
struggle: we *are* engaged in a global movement for social-political 
change by both reform and revolution - the movement includes situations 
of open war and more "quiet" day-to-day struggle within civil society 
against the Corporations and the authoritarian State. The bonds we build 
between us need to be able to withstand the erosion and losses generated 
by friction and conflict with our global class enemy.


The new-imc group is still the only one of the global imc work-groups 
that retains some sort of process, some co-operation and accountability; 
none of the other global groups have remained true to their mission or 
to the terms of engagement. We were able to maintain new-imc level of 
functionality to a high degree because we paid attention to some 
principles, for several years from its beginning. When we abandoned 
those principles, the quality of our work declined, and new-imc began to 
resemble the dysfunction of other global imc groups.

In order to regain our previous quality we need to return to some basic 
principles that contribute to trust such as transparency, direct 
democracy, open dialogue and informed participation. Within a climate 
determined by such elements, work can be done at high quality, and even 
disagreements can take on a meaningful role and be experienced positively.


I mention all these because the issue of list admin is intimately linked 
to everything we do (or fail to do) together as a group. It is not a 
mere matter of getting a password sent from one account to another, but 
it involves returning to the basic principles of indymedia work 
*primarily* focused on a social-political mission. The project demands 
of us a higher level of involvement.


Thanks very much for reading all this and being mindful of these concerns.

Thanks!
Petros
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Related Readings:
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/new-imc/2006-November/1106-rk.html

[New-imc] constructive criticism for Petros
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/new-imc/2006-November/1106-65.html

[IMC-Palestine] Can I do a talk as a fund raiser for IMEMC in Cyprus
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-palestine/2007-March/0308-sm.html

[New-imc] I'm very sorry
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/new-imc/2006-November/1108-iz.html

[New-imc] process vs dialogue - maybe a place for each?
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/new-imc/2006-November/1108-p9.html