[New-imc] [Listwork] Help Setting up Sarasota Indymedia

[Alster]

I'm resending an email I sent earlier today, but which ended up being
delivered with missing text passages.
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Hi Adam,

Roca, Adam wrote:
> Hello,
> We have been trying to send an e-mail to the list for people trying to set up an 
> Indymedia in their area and we keep getting bounces. We have been trying the 
> follow addresses:
[..]
> We just wanted to point out that these e-mails must no longer work and that it 
> should be addressed in the appropriate areas.

Here's a version of the email addresses you listed as broken, reordered
by types of issues, duplicates removed, accompanied by explanations:

> new-imc at indymediaSTOPSPAM.org
> www-features at lists.indymediaSTOPSPAM.org

These email addresses contain the expression 'STOPSPAM', which is meant
to prevent spammers' email address harvesting bots which crawl indymedia
websites from adding legitimate email addresses to their databases. The
idea is that humans will realize that the 'STOPSPAM' text needs to be
removed off the email address before email is sent to this address. For
example, www-features at lists.indymediaSTOPSPAM.org should be manually
rewritten to www-features at lists.indymedia.org before email is sent to
this address.
Nevertheless, the 'new-imc at indymedia.org' email address is outdated (see
below).

> help[@t]indymedia.org
> new-imc[@t]indymedia.org
> listwork[@t]indymedia.org

This is the same as above, just the anti-spam text here is not
'STOPSPAM' but '[@t]' and it needs to be replaced by '@'. Nevertheless,
these email addresses are outdated (see below).

> new-imc at indymedia.org
> listwork at indymedia.org

These email addresses do no longer work. They used to work but have
since been disabled. These email addresses pointed to mailing lists.
Mailing lists are run on the 'lists.indymedia.org' host. As such, emails
to mailing lists should always end in '@lists.indymedia.org', such as
'new-imc at lists.indymedia.org' (mailing list addresses formatted this way
have always been working and continue to do so now). When sending email
to the outdated email addresses such as 'listwork at indymedia.org' you
should an error message such as this:

> <listwork at indymedia.org>:
> 204.13.164.132 does not like recipient.
> Remote host said: 550 5.1.1 <listwork at indymedia.org>: Recipient address rejected: User has moved to listwork at lists.indymedia.org
> Giving up on 204.13.164.132.

This is meant to tell you that the correct email address is actually
'listwork at lists.indymedia.org'. And it is.

> help at indymedia.org

This email address has since been removed as it turned out that nobody
was actually responding to emails sent to this address and people
sending email there never received any replies.

Unfortunately it's not easy to correct the above email addresses as it
is more than difficult to locate outdated information on indymedia and
there is no way we can know where you actually came across these
outdated email addresses. If you still have these locations handy please
send me an email to my email address (do not send a copy to the mailing
list unless anyone else asks for it).

> Also, if you could help me or direct me to someone who could, that would help us 
> out a lot. This is the message we've been trying to send:
> Hello, My name is Adam and I am currently part of a collective who is seeking to 
> set up Independent Media in Sarasota, FL. I find all the pages on how to set up 
> Indymedia EXTREMELY confusing. There seems to be some contradictions of what 
> should be done first and how. Nonetheless, as far as we have been able to peace 
> together, we should probably get an IMC lists address to help us better 
> coordinate the planning phase of our Indymedia. Could you please set this up for 
> me?

To request a mailing list, please fill out the 'newlist' form at
https://newlist.indymedia.org
More information on requesting new mailing lists, as well as on
*@lists.indymedia.org and *@indymedia.org email addresses and services
in general is available in the 'Listwork FAQs'. Handy links pointing to
the FAQs can always be found on top of http://lists.indymedia.org/

Please request your mailing list only after sending your new-imc
application (through the new-imc form).

The email address of the 'new-imc' working group which can help you
finding your way through the Indymedia jungle is
new-imc at lists.indymedia.org.

[..]
> P.S.- I apologize for sending this to more than one section of IMC. I'm trying 
> to send them from differen internet servers to see if that was the problems and 
> trying ten different e-mail address on each one is taxing

This was not the reason why your emails did not arrive. The reasons were
those given above.

Hope this helps,

Alster, one of the 'Listwork' working group
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