[New-imc] (en) Re: Online form: Proposed new IMC! (Indymedia-Piter)

[boud]

hi akop,

Based on the guidelines at:
   https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/NewImcHowTo

i've put a summary of the information i could find about IMC Piter
organising on the central/eastern europe twiki page:

https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Local/ImcCEEurope#Piter_http_en_wikipedia_org_wiki

It's a wiki - you're welcome to "register" and then keep it up-to-date.

i think that you look mostly well organised - many of the answers to
the "Principles of Unity" and "Membership Criteria" are in your
"Policy" document - it's OK to say, for example, "Yes, see 3.1 of our
Policy", so it's just a matter of doing a bit of editing work by your
collective to organise the information... :)

This month's central/east europe imc informal chat is planned for
Thursday 28 June, 22:00 UTC+4 (Moscow time) - #europe
https://irc.indymedia.org (see http://belarus.indymedia.org/7070).
i'm sure people from other indymedias in the region would be pleased
to "meet" you.

On Sat, 26 May 2007, akop38 wrote:

>> (1) Something i'm a bit puzzled about is that i could not find a
>> Russian-language version of this policy:
>>  Policy of Indymedia Piter
>>  http://piter.indymedia.ru/en/node/2679
>
> It is not in the same category as english. I wrote her link. Here :
> http://piter.indymedia.ru/ru/taxonomy/term/33

Thanks, though i'm still a little confused - the russian version
is dated 05/05/2007 - 01:32 :: pokahontas
  http://piter.indymedia.ru/ru/node/2870

while the english version is from three days earlier
02/05/2007 - 19:39 :: akop38
http://piter.indymedia.ru/en/node/2679

The organising documents are meant mainly for people who live locally,
not just for english speakers, so i would have thought that the
russian version would be the original that your collective consensed
on, and the english version would be a translation of that (but the
dates of the articles suggest the other way around).

Anyway, this sort of thing might be easier to discuss on irc (chat).

Just a reminder about the political power relations here:

* i'm just one volunteer in the new-imc group, trying to guess what
the new-imc group thinks, and the new-imc group is trying to guess
that the whole indymedia network would be likely to feel about whether
or not your collective is ready to be part of the network. But i should
not control the new-imc group, and the new-imc group should not control
the network.

So, if you (IMC Piter) get tired of my questions or think they are
unfair, unreasonable, etc., then you should say that you want to be
proposed to the new-imc group even if i think you're not ready yet.
And if the new-imc group says it thinks you're not ready, but you 
(again, collective you = IMC Piter) disagree and want to be proposed
to the network, then you could ask the new-imc group to propose you to
the network even though the new-imc group feels that you are not ready.

It might not be a good idea to ignore my questions/suggestions, and it
might not be a good idea to ignore the new-imc working group's
questions/suggestions, but we're a non-hierarchical, non-authoritarian
network, so you certainly have the right to either.

Anyway, enough non-hierarchy theory. Hope to chat to you Thursday night...


pozdr
boud







>
>>>
>>>
>>> steps_involve_new_workfields:
>>>
>>
>> The outreach question is important: the idea is to get together more
>> and more diverse individuals and groups, not to have a small closed
>> group. People may respond slowly to outreach (this means contacting
>> other people, explaining free media, open publishing, etc etc), but
>> in the long term this is what generates real social change.
>>
>> The last three questions are in "step 1" of the suggested new-imc
>> organising process:
>> https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/NewImcHowTo
>>
>> and other indymedia collectives might be rather unhappy if you don't
>> work through them. The idea is to make a new, non-racist, non-sexist
>> society starting from the way we ourselves are organised :) -
>> rather than
>> just protesting and waiting for The Revolution when suddenly we'll
>> all change our habits and start to organise differently.
>
> We have people from different collectives, such as indyvideo,
> frontAIDS,  and some Individual activists. Now we have about 6 members.
>
>>
>>
>> (6) regional contacts
>>
>> As recommended here:
>>  https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/NewImcHowTo
>> you should have some contacts in the various global mailing lists,
>> especially imc-process, imc-communication, imc-finance and imc-
>> europe, and it would be good if some of you could participate
>> in the next monthly CEEurope chat, which, in principle will happen at:
>>
>> Thur 31.05.2007 - 18:00 UTC = 20:00 UTC+2 (pl/hu) = 21:00 UTC+3 (by/
>> ua) = 22:00 UTC+4 (moscow)
>
> i'll try =)
>
> Answwers on  questions about our policy i'll write later. Have you
> got other questions?
>
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