[New-imc] [meeting] proposal for a informal meeting on irc

[toya]

hi new-imc,
no one replied to this meeting call, has beeing a week i sent it
already, so I am thinking about sending this to communication and try to
have this discussion there...
I really dont want this to disappier in the air...
so please, if anyone in here feels like we could have this meeting at
the end of this wiki, send any sign of life!
Otherwise, by wednesday, I will send a new call but this time to
communication list and reschedule the date for the meeting...
Of course that means anyone in here or from any collectives will be able
to join...
I tried to have on meeting with the working group first to hear the
voices of the people who are doing this work ....but since there was no
answer to the call... I believe the best is to send it to
communication..
If people has any sugestions, please :) send them...
bye
toya


Em Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 11:40:32AM -0700, toya escreveu:
> hi there!
> This is a proposal for a meeting with the people involved with new-imc.
> This meeting has no intention of making any decisions. But just share
> thoughts and ideas related with the topics below. Although, I can't
> predict if a proposal will come out of this or not. So yeah, it might
> have a proposal in the end, but no decisions will be make.
> 
> here is the summary of the thing:
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> proposal:  meeting on irc.indymedia.org channel #new-imc at 3pm UTC -3
> date:     setember 21th, friday.
> Agenda: not a meeting to take any consensus or anything. But we propose
> the group reflection on the following topic:
> 
> New-IMC processes where:
> 
> 1. Local IMC's recieve a site before their process is over.
> 2. External help (person helping a collective pass through the new imc
> process) become the liasson for the local imc's during the process.  
> Leading to leave the local imc's without someone from the area who knows
> other people in the network, knows how the communication in the network
> works, knows what working groups exists in the network, what services
> they provide, how to request something to them, how to participate on
> them.  
> 3. How is this reflecting on our network: process that never gets a
> resolution, no involvement of collectives on global processes and work,
> lack of communication between groups resulting on lack of resources
> being shared as well as knowledge and skills. 
> 4. Worst of all, the attacks issue, spam attacks and right wing attacks,
> as well as lawsuits against indymedia. Where we can't contact the local
> collectives, because there is no involviment in the network, know who to
> contact would be a good help in these cases (specially the legal ones). 
> 
> 
> a bunch of reasons why make this meeting: 
> create spaces for free discussions where there is no intention to make
> decisions but just to think about our work and our network is very
> important. The experience of the payment-discuss list, where there was
> nothing but the intention of discuss some situation and bring up a
> proposal to the network, helps us reflect on our work and what we are
> building here. 
> The global imc network has beeing passing over a few problems, specially
> with communication.  
> New-imc working group has many experiences, and most people involved
> here also follows other global processes. 
> 
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> PORTUGUESE
> 
> proposta: reuniao no irc.indymedia.org canal #new-imc as 3pm UTC -3
> data:     21 de setembro, sexta feira
> pauta:   nao eh uma reuniao pra tirar consenso ou algo parecido. Mas ter
> uma reflexao em grupo sobre o seguinte topico:
> 
> Processo do new-imc aonde:
> 
> 1. CMI's locais recebem um site antes do seu processo ter terminado.
> 2. Ajuda de fora se tornar o 'liasson' (ponte) para o cmi local durante
> o processo de new-imc. Deixando o coletivo local sem ninguem da regiao
> que conhece outras pessoas da rede, conhece como a comunicacao da rede
> funciona, conhece os grupos de trabalhos existentes na rede, que
> servicos eles oferecem, como requisitar algum deles, como paticipar
> nesses grupos de trabalho.
> 3. Como isso reflete na nossa rede, processos que nunca recebem uma
> resolucao, nenhum envolvimento de coletivos nos processos e trabalho da
> rede global, falta de comunicacao entre os grupos que resulta na falta de
> compartilhar recursos, conhecimentos etc.
> 4. Pior de tudo, a questao dos ataques, ataques de spam ou da extrema
> direita, como tambem processos legais contra o indymedia. Aonde nao
> conseguimos contactar o coletivo local, porque nao existe ninguem
> envolvido na rede global, saber quem contactar eh uma grande ajuda
> nesses casos (especialmente nos casos legais).
> 
> uma pah de razoes pra se fazer essa reuniao:
> criar espacos para discussoes livres aonde nao existe nenhuma intencao
> para tomar decisoes, mas para refletir no nosso trabalho e na nossa rede
> que eh muito importante. A experiencia da lista payment-discuss, aonde
> nao tinha nenhuma outra intencao a nao ser discutir a situacao e trazer
> para a rede uma proposta, nos ajuda em refletir sobre o nosso trabalho e
> sobre o q estamos construindo.
> A rede global CMI vem passando por varios problemas, especialmente na
> parte de comunicacao. 
> o grupo de trabalho new-imc tem bastante experiencia, e maioria das
> pessoas envolvidad aqui tambem acompanham outros processos globais.
> 
> 
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