[New-imc] [IMC-Process] Online form: Proposed new IMC! (Caucasus Indymedia)

Mon Feb 25 04:07:01 PST 2008

Sorry for my English.

I know this man personally, so I can tell a little bit about him.  
Goren was associated with anarchists, but once hi started sympathizing  
Nazis  from  (DPIN), hi was expelled. On indymedias Russia and Piter  
he deployed provakatsionnye article. Statements that Russia and Piter  
moderation reports of Chechnya highly exaggerated and untrue. Because  
of sympathy Gorena to the Russian Nazis, I do not think that this is a  
good idea.

> Yes, it appears that way. At least, during the last several months all
> Caucasus-related articles on Russian and St.Petersburg Indymedias were
> hidden, what caused a lot of flame and discussion in anarchist and
> indymedia-related media and communities, forums, livejournal blogs  
> etc.
> Moderators failed to provide any explanation to their politics towards
> this matter or show in which way that articles violate editorial
> guidelines. Of course, they didn't actually say something like "We are
> doing this because we are afraid of repressions" or anything like  
> that,
> but it appears to be the only adequate explanation of this behaviour.
>
> I feel that creating apart Indymedia for Caucasus region appears to be
> the only way of getting around it, which is an additional reason we  
> need
> it. Thank you for your support!
>
> On dim, 2008-02-24 at 01:23 +0100, maxigas wrote:
>> hi!
>>
>> i think this is a very good idea, and also that it is generally very
>> good direction for Indymedia to go transnational as opposed to
>> international and make Indymedias that strech over countries or
>> between countries like estrecho.indymedia.org.
>>
>> i cannot really help you in a practical way i think but if you
>> describe what kind of support you need i am sure we can find out how
>> to solve the problems. :)
>>
>> a question asking for clarification: you are saying that activists of
>> russia-based indys remove pro-Carpatia articles because they fear
>> repression? so they are censoring material not because of their
>> editorial guidelines but because of fear of repression?
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
>> From: Goren �� riseup.net
>> Subject: [IMC-Process] Online form: Proposed new IMC! (Caucasus  
>> Indymedia)
>> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:39:17 -0800 (PST)
>>
>>> Submitted by: Michael "Goren" Lunkowsky <Goren �� riseup.net> on  
>>> Saturday, February 23rd, 2008 @ 12:39:17 am (-0800)
>>>
>>> Client Variables
>>> ----------------
>>>
>>> HTTP_USER_AGENT:
>>> Opera/9.20 (X11; Linux i686; U; en)
>>>
>>> Online Form Fields
>>> ------------------
>>>
>>> proposed_imc_name:
>>> Caucasus Indymedia
>>>
>>> proposed_imc_url:
>>> kavkaz.indymedia.org
>>>
>>> current_url:
>>>
>>>
>>> city:
>>>
>>>
>>> state:
>>> Caucasus, especially North Caucasus
>>>
>>> country:
>>> various
>>>
>>> contact_name:
>>> Michael "Goren" Lunkowsky
>>>
>>> contact_email:
>>> Goren �� riseup.net
>>>
>>> contact_phone:
>>> 021-1459660 (New Zealand)
>>>
>>> tech_name:
>>> Michael "Goren" Lunkowsky
>>>
>>> tech_email:
>>> Goren �� riseup.net
>>>
>>> tech_phone:
>>> 021-1459660 (New Zealand)
>>>
>>> focus:
>>> regional_focus
>>>
>>> critical_dates:
>>>
>>>
>>> supporting_groups:
>>> Association of Anarchist Movements, Anti-War Commitee, various  
>>> human rights and anti-war organisations
>>>
>>> introductory_statement:
>>> Caucasus is an extremely unique region with its own specifics. It  
>>> consists of enourmous number of local nations, languages and  
>>> cultures that interacted historically in a very complex and unique  
>>> way. Now the region is divided between various state systems that  
>>> conflict with each other and try to inspire national conflicts  
>>> between the nations, and Russia-inspired dirty war in Chechnya  
>>> already took lifes of more than 300000 people. In the same time,  
>>> Russian anti-Chechen and general anti-Caucasus propaganda is  
>>> extremely powerful and all Russia-based resources that protect  
>>> different points of view are repressed. Activists from Russian- 
>>> based Indymedias have to block and hide postings about Caucasus in  
>>> fear of such repressions.
>>> There are some resources run by Chechen separatists, but the  
>>> latter are poisoned by Islamic fundamentalism and Chechen  
>>> nationalism and are not much more free and tolerant to other  
>>> points of view than official media.
>>> In this circumstances having a truly independent, pluralistic,  
>>> inter-nationalistic media center for that region is an essential  
>>> task. It would cost some effort, but it's worth it.
>>>
>>> resources:
>>> Given the situation in region, it's easy to understand that we  
>>> don't have much technical possibilities right now. In fact, we are  
>>> an internet-based group of people spread around the world, many of  
>>> us are social and political emigrants. Nevertheless, some of us  
>>> are sufficiently technically-skilled people and most of us are  
>>> keen to learn and organize.
>>>
>>> outreach:
>>> We have contacted various local communities of Caucasus as well as  
>>> groups involved in anti-war struggle. The interest in such a  
>>> project is enormous.
>>>
>>> identity_makeup:
>>> Of course, we can't claim to represent Caucasus society in all its  
>>> diversity, such a task would hardly be possible. Also, as  
>>> mentioned above, the war and difficult political situation led to  
>>> a fact that many of us don't actually live in the region.  
>>> Nevertheless, we do our best to contact local communities and to  
>>> get them involved in a process of sharing the information.
>>>
>>> steps_represent_diversity:
>>> Regardless of the war and overall difficult political situation,  
>>> many locals still have access to the Internet. There, they usually  
>>> tend to stay in their own virtual ghettos and are, as a rule, not  
>>> very eager to contact with other groups. Our activists try to get  
>>> in touch with them and provide them with access to some sort of  
>>> the media to represent their opinion in informational environment.  
>>> Having an IMC would be a great asset to this cause.
>>>
>>> steps_involve_new_workfields:
>>> Usually attempts to involve individuals in newer workfields are  
>>> made as soon as we manage to contact them. We try to organise  
>>> workshops, conferences and lectures as much as it's possible to do  
>>> locally, and provide all possible help via internet.
>>>
>>> username:
>>> Michael "Goren" Lunkowsky
>>>
>>>
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