[New-imc] "Artalk", imc Berlin / Re: (no subject)

Sun Jul 6 10:44:20 PDT 2008

To: new-imc
CC: imc-germany-kontakt at lists.indymedia.org, pete

Friends,

I know that many of us on the various imc work groups have from time to
time encountered the disruptive and abusive behaviour of the person
alias known as "Artalk", described in the letter below.

We already have enough disruptors working at every possible level of our
imc network, no need to empower more of them in the name of some
abstract "democratic" principles. We need to start safeguarding what
little ability the network still has to operate in accordance to our
mission and goals, not squander it.

For all those reasons, I support the proposal in the letter below to
reject an association or co-operation with that person.

Thanks,
Petros,
long term new-imc friend,
founding member of imc-cyprus
http://petros-evdokas.cyprus-org.net/Another-sort-of-Introduction.html
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pete wrote:
> Hello,
> this is Pete from the indymedia-collective in Berlin. The 
> indymedia-collectives of de.indymedia.org are rejecting the allegedly 
> founded group "imc-berlin". 
> (http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/new-imc/2008-July/0701-xx.html) 
> 
> Wiredrawer of this controversial group is a single person named Anna Panelk 
> aka artalk that has already been banned from german, polish, british and 
> even some global indymedia-lists (a/m communications). Also several 
> political networks are refusing to accept her membership on their 
> mailinglists. 
> 
> Lo!:
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-communication/2007-August/0824-ns.h 
> tml
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-communication/2007-August/0824-8w.h 
> tml
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-communication/2007-August/0824-ef.h 
> tml 
> 
> The reason for that are her aggressive spam attacks against those lists, 
> pushily blackguarding others and partly publicly using sensitive data like 
> private, e-mail-addresses and contact data.(Lo!: 
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-germany/2008-June/0622-1s.html). 
> 
> Artalk is regularly registering new e-mail accounts (approximately 30 in 
> june08). She is using those e-mail addresses in order to masquerade as other 
> people and to lead discussions with herself. 
> 
> The following mail accounts can definitely be assigned to her:
> oubs at riseup.net - shared project box
> streikzentrale at gmx.net - shared studentsΒ΄ protest box
> imc-berlin at gmx.net - imc-berlin - inbox for the new-imc-list, forwarding to 
> named admins.
> The two other accounts could either be owned by herself or the the 
> problematic people associated with her. 
> 
> More fake adresses from Artalk which are banned on IMC-Lists (all of them 
> used in the last few weeks!!):
> hd2007blnkult at gmx.net
> sowwa at gmx.de
> dutschke23 at gmx.de
> rosalu1 at gmx.net
> panek.smok at slubice.pl
> rafraf at web.de
> annapanek at gmx.de
> listoutbox at gmx.net
> listinbox at gmx.net
> rafseven at web.de
> jpsartre at gmx.net
> bertolt.brecht at gmx.de
> rosa.luxemburg68 at gmx.de
> rosalu1968 at gmx.de
> listen1 at gmx.net
> gebt_dem_dieter_nen_neuen_job_ey at lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de
> streikzentrale at gmx.net
> indybox at gmx.de
> jemand73 at gmx.de
> ioaweruzaruio at gmx.de
> jemandirgend at gmx.de
> incoming.listele at gmx.net
> alfhalmjfalskdj at gmx.de
> a.def8 at gmx.de
> listwork at gmx.de
> geh.ijk at gmx.de
> backe.backe at gmx.de
> rhaberber at gmx.de
> an.alster at gmx.de
> oeaoweifhoeoaisdfjhoeosdhvoe at gmx.de
> northgull at web.de
> zwetschgen.datschi at gmx.net
> and look at this: 
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/listwork/2008-June/0624-0c.html 
> 
> 
> Her enmeshment with drug dealers and right wing activists, extruding other 
> political activists from former alternative and free areas (e.g. OUBS in 
> berlin), also seem to be problematic. 
> 
> Her mails are mostly based on totally incomprehensive sequences of sentences 
> and pasted fragments of other e-mails.
> She has repeatedly threatened IMC-activists, wrote them impending mails and 
> menaced to publish their names and addresses. 
> 
> The e-mail addresses, mentioned by her as contact addresses in the 
> application form, have been solely registered by herself. Those addresses 
> have already been banned from the IMC-lists. 
> 
> Spam-mails of Arttalk typically look like this. There are already hundreds 
> of them: 
> 
> on indy-pl:
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-pl-video/2007-February/0220-wt.html
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-pl-video/2007-June/0630-pd.html
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-pl-wawa/2007-July/0702-5c.html
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-pl-wawa/2007-June/0701-er.html
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-pl/2007-June/0626-bi.html
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-pl-red/2007-June/0625-wx.html
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-pl/2007-June/0625-4x.html 
> 
> 
> on indy.de:
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/www-de/2006-September/0919-io.html
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-germany/2008-June/0622-hk.html
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-germany/2007-July/0728-q8.html
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-germany/2007-July/0728-lq.html
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-germany/2007-July/0728-xd.html
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-germany/2007-July/0730-76.html
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-germany/2007-August/0826-hf.html
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-germany/2007-July/0724-t7.html 
> 
> Additionally she has already edited hundreds of subpages of some political 
> wikis. Especially the project wiki.bildung-schadet-nicht has been highly 
> abused affected by her spam activities. 
> 
> For those reasons an acknowledgement of this new "IMC Berlin" is 
> concordantly refused among IMC activists in Germany. 
> 
> 
> Pete 
> 
>  
> 
> PS: Answers please to imc-germany-kontakt at lists.indymedia.org
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