[New-imc] [IMC-Tech] State of the nation - 25% of indymedia sites are dead

[toya]

hi ben, just an update on your list:

 > http://chilesur.indymedia.org Frozen since Nov 2006
 > http://india.indymedia.org/ Suspended in 2006

both are hosted by imc brasil, both had their own collectives ask us to 
froze their sites. And has being this way since 2006 as you pointed out.
I don't see them as indymedia collectives or sites, since is a frozen 
site. But is a resource for information that should be up and available 
to the public.


 > http://paris.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found

the server is having problems and we are working on with ppl from paris 
has being about a month, they are being attacked by bots like crazy and 
that is making the cpu usage goes way too high for the rest of the 
server...that is why you see it as 404 but ppl from paris are still 
active and on irc with us working on it in a daily basis.


 > Personally I believe that frozen/archive sites should also be removed
 > from the list and a new imc project sites called archives.indymedia be
 > created to point at such sites or better yet, pull their content into
 > in to a safer home.

Well our home is safe :P heheh I am kidding, I just want to say that the 
server where those frozen sites (chilesur and india) are is safe and is 
backed up etc. I think is a good idea to have them separate from the 
list of sites that are avaliable. maybe they should be in a section 
inside the list that says imc archives, and list the frozen sites...
I just think that if we send the users to another page so they can see 
what are the frozen sites etc, the user will never do it...so maybe 
keeping the links in the same place so the user can see it right away, 
would be better, and they can link and access the sites.
If there are any frozen sites that doesnt have a 'good home' :) imc tech 
brasil could host them as well, host the frozen ones is way easy :P then 
the active ones hehe

ciao
toya


ben wrote:
> The following IMC sites (found displayed as links in the cities list
> on all indymedia sites), are either dead, broken, frozen, unmanaged,
> hacked, sold or otherwise unavailable at the time of writing. This
> list is not intended as an exhustive list and may contain errors. It
> certainly misses some other sites which are non functing but passed
> automatic tests and were not checked manually. It may contain sites
> which were temporarily unavailable at the time of testing.
> 
> Obviously these 46 sites represent a substancial proportion of the 185
> sites listed as being part of the global indymedia network. That's 25%
> of the network down, and that's not including the 22 sites already
> taken off the list and marked as inactive in the contacts database.
> 
> Over twelve months ago I raised the issue of the number of dead sites
> on the process list with the intention of getting such sites removed
> (http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/translation/2007-June/0613-4g.html).
> No progress was made (partly due to errors in my draft list) and also
> because there appears to be no agreed process by which to de-list a
> site.
> 
> When it looked like no progress would be made on the global level I
> proposed to my local IMC (indymedia UK) that we make use of a non
> standard modified cities.inc list rather than the out-of-date list
> generated by the IMC contacts database
> (http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-uk-network/2007-June/0614-9p.html).
> This was never implemented but with the creation of a new
> london.indymedia site coming up in the next few weeks I intend to make
> the proposal again.
> 
> Obviously I would rather the issue could be solved at a global level
> rather than implement unilateral local workarounds so I propose again
> that any site (starting with those listed below) which are
> inaccessible or broken for a period of 3 months, shall be removed from
> the cities list and flagged as inactive on the contacts data base.
> 
> Personally I believe that frozen/archive sites should also be removed
> from the list and a new imc project sites called archives.indymedia be
> created to point at such sites or better yet, pull their content into
> in to a safer home.
> 
> 
> 
> Ben
> 
> http://richmond.indymedia.org/ Frozen June 2008
> http://hawaii.indymedia.org/ Frozen since mid 2006
> http://adelaide.indymedia.org/ Frozen since Nov 2006
> http://vermont.indymedia.org/ Dada IMC code error
> http://beirut.indymedia.org/ Frozen March 2007, collective desolved
> http://bc.indymedia.org/ Site offline holding page
> http://victoria.indymedia.org/ Site offline holding page
> http://chilesur.indymedia.org Frozen since Nov 2006
> http://bigmuddyimc.org/ Just a satic holding page
> http://india.indymedia.org/ Suspended in 2006
> http://binghamtonpmc.org/ Closed. Holding page
> http://base.espora.org Not an Indymedia site
> http://belgrade.indymedia.org Closed
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-balkan/2007-June/0615-tp.html
> http://brisbane.indymedia.org/ Closed
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-tech/2007-June/0615-59.html
> http://darwin.indymedia.org Closed
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-tech/2007-June/0615-59.html
> http://worcester.buffaloimc.org 401 Unauthorized. requires password
> http://nigeria.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
> http://armenia.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
> http://croatia.indymedia.org 404 Not Found
> http://hungary.indymedia.org 404 Not Found
> http://paris.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
> http://193.189.147.16/cmitlse/ 404 Not Found
> http://hamilton.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
> http://montreal.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
> http://ontario.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
> http://windsor.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
> http://winnipeg.indymedia.org 404 Not Found
> http://atlanta.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
> http://cvilleindymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
> http://colorado.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
> http://www.hm.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
> http://www.okimc.org 404 Not Found
> http://omahaimc.org/ 404 Not Found
> http://sarasota.indymedia.org 404 Not Found
> http://tnimc.org/ 404 Not Found
> http://mumbai.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
> http://burma.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
> http://lancaster.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
> http://vienna.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
> http://andinacol.indymedia.org 404 Not Found
> http://www.quietrev.org/ 404 Not Found
> http://zimbabwe.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
> http://moscow.indymedia.org 404 Not Found
> http://www.twimc.org 404 Not Found
> http://arica.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
> http://armenia.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
> http://omahaimc.org/ 404 Not Found
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