[New-imc] [IMC-Tech] State of the nation - 25% of indymedia sites are dead

Kenneth Peiruza kenneth at gnun.net
Fri Jun 27 01:34:18 PDT 2008 

Hi all,

    If some sites are going to be 'stored', I would suggest to make a
static copy of these sites, so, abandon the current php+mysql //
java+mysql software and make a static html copy with wget or simmilar.

    Then, by pointing the sites to the static copies, we will save
server resources and ensure no abuse/crack can be performed on these
'static mirrors' and we would be free to check if those sites are
working or not after a system update.

    Then we can keep these sites linked in a 'archive' section as mumu
proposed and never mind about their maintenance anymore.


    About the DoS attack against Paris, we can use a simmilar strategy
to push down the CPU usage: serve paris' website 'internally' in their
server and configure a reverse proxy between the site and the Internet,
configuring the proxy not to refresh dynamic content on demand but with
a 'grace time', sort of 15 or 30 minutes will be fine, if attack is
still harmful, just increase this value :D


Cheers!


Kenneth


En/na mumu ha escrit:
> hi,
>
> an other update
>
> http://nice.indymedia.org , last contribution 28 avril 2007
>
> toya a écrit :
>   
>> hi ben, just an update on your list:
>>
>>  > http://chilesur.indymedia.org Frozen since Nov 2006
>>  > http://india.indymedia.org/ Suspended in 2006
>>
>> both are hosted by imc brasil, both had their own collectives ask us to 
>> froze their sites. And has being this way since 2006 as you pointed out.
>> I don't see them as indymedia collectives or sites, since is a frozen 
>> site. But is a resource for information that should be up and available 
>> to the public.
>>
>>
>>  > http://paris.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
>>
>> the server is having problems and we are working on with ppl from paris 
>> has being about a month, they are being attacked by bots like crazy and 
>> that is making the cpu usage goes way too high for the rest of the 
>> server...that is why you see it as 404 but ppl from paris are still 
>> active and on irc with us working on it in a daily basis.
>>
>>
>>  > Personally I believe that frozen/archive sites should also be removed
>>  > from the list and a new imc project sites called archives.indymedia be
>>  > created to point at such sites or better yet, pull their content into
>>  > in to a safer home.
>>
>> Well our home is safe :P heheh I am kidding, I just want to say that the 
>> server where those frozen sites (chilesur and india) are is safe and is 
>> backed up etc. I think is a good idea to have them separate from the 
>> list of sites that are avaliable. maybe they should be in a section 
>> inside the list that says imc archives, and list the frozen sites...
>> I just think that if we send the users to another page so they can see 
>> what are the frozen sites etc, the user will never do it...so maybe 
>> keeping the links in the same place so the user can see it right away, 
>> would be better, and they can link and access the sites.
>> If there are any frozen sites that doesnt have a 'good home' :) imc tech 
>> brasil could host them as well, host the frozen ones is way easy :P then 
>> the active ones hehe
>>
>> ciao
>> toya
>>
>>
>> ben wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> The following IMC sites (found displayed as links in the cities list
>>> on all indymedia sites), are either dead, broken, frozen, unmanaged,
>>> hacked, sold or otherwise unavailable at the time of writing. This
>>> list is not intended as an exhustive list and may contain errors. It
>>> certainly misses some other sites which are non functing but passed
>>> automatic tests and were not checked manually. It may contain sites
>>> which were temporarily unavailable at the time of testing.
>>>
>>> Obviously these 46 sites represent a substancial proportion of the 185
>>> sites listed as being part of the global indymedia network. That's 25%
>>> of the network down, and that's not including the 22 sites already
>>> taken off the list and marked as inactive in the contacts database.
>>>
>>> Over twelve months ago I raised the issue of the number of dead sites
>>> on the process list with the intention of getting such sites removed
>>> (http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/translation/2007-June/0613-4g.html).
>>> No progress was made (partly due to errors in my draft list) and also
>>> because there appears to be no agreed process by which to de-list a
>>> site.
>>>
>>> When it looked like no progress would be made on the global level I
>>> proposed to my local IMC (indymedia UK) that we make use of a non
>>> standard modified cities.inc list rather than the out-of-date list
>>> generated by the IMC contacts database
>>> (http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-uk-network/2007-June/0614-9p.html).
>>> This was never implemented but with the creation of a new
>>> london.indymedia site coming up in the next few weeks I intend to make
>>> the proposal again.
>>>
>>> Obviously I would rather the issue could be solved at a global level
>>> rather than implement unilateral local workarounds so I propose again
>>> that any site (starting with those listed below) which are
>>> inaccessible or broken for a period of 3 months, shall be removed from
>>> the cities list and flagged as inactive on the contacts data base.
>>>
>>> Personally I believe that frozen/archive sites should also be removed
>>> from the list and a new imc project sites called archives.indymedia be
>>> created to point at such sites or better yet, pull their content into
>>> in to a safer home.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ben
>>>
>>> http://richmond.indymedia.org/ Frozen June 2008
>>> http://hawaii.indymedia.org/ Frozen since mid 2006
>>> http://adelaide.indymedia.org/ Frozen since Nov 2006
>>> http://vermont.indymedia.org/ Dada IMC code error
>>> http://beirut.indymedia.org/ Frozen March 2007, collective desolved
>>> http://bc.indymedia.org/ Site offline holding page
>>> http://victoria.indymedia.org/ Site offline holding page
>>> http://chilesur.indymedia.org Frozen since Nov 2006
>>> http://bigmuddyimc.org/ Just a satic holding page
>>> http://india.indymedia.org/ Suspended in 2006
>>> http://binghamtonpmc.org/ Closed. Holding page
>>> http://base.espora.org Not an Indymedia site
>>> http://belgrade.indymedia.org Closed
>>> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-balkan/2007-June/0615-tp.html
>>> http://brisbane.indymedia.org/ Closed
>>> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-tech/2007-June/0615-59.html
>>> http://darwin.indymedia.org Closed
>>> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-tech/2007-June/0615-59.html
>>> http://worcester.buffaloimc.org 401 Unauthorized. requires password
>>> http://nigeria.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
>>> http://armenia.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
>>> http://croatia.indymedia.org 404 Not Found
>>> http://hungary.indymedia.org 404 Not Found
>>> http://paris.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
>>> http://193.189.147.16/cmitlse/ 404 Not Found
>>> http://hamilton.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
>>> http://montreal.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
>>> http://ontario.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
>>> http://windsor.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
>>> http://winnipeg.indymedia.org 404 Not Found
>>> http://atlanta.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
>>> http://cvilleindymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
>>> http://colorado.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
>>> http://www.hm.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
>>> http://www.okimc.org 404 Not Found
>>> http://omahaimc.org/ 404 Not Found
>>> http://sarasota.indymedia.org 404 Not Found
>>> http://tnimc.org/ 404 Not Found
>>> http://mumbai.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
>>> http://burma.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
>>> http://lancaster.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
>>> http://vienna.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
>>> http://andinacol.indymedia.org 404 Not Found
>>> http://www.quietrev.org/ 404 Not Found
>>> http://zimbabwe.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
>>> http://moscow.indymedia.org 404 Not Found
>>> http://www.twimc.org 404 Not Found
>>> http://arica.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
>>> http://armenia.indymedia.org/ 404 Not Found
>>> http://omahaimc.org/ 404 Not Found
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