[New-imc] [IMC-Process] Online form: Proposed new IMC! (И н д и м е д и а -Ю Г )
boud
boud at riseup.net
Thu May 8 12:11:49 PDT 2008
hi akop
On Thu, 8 May 2008, akop38 wrote:
> Ok! I know this man, and i was helping him with teh. part of site, and
> consualt him about IMC policy.
> I'll guide YUG (in russian it means "south"=)
:) Like Yugoslavia before NATO bombed it...
>
> Should i mail and talk exactly to him, or use this subscription?
>
i think you mean "should you email privately or on this mailing list?"
That's up to you to choose. There's a long page
https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/NewImcHowHelpUs
for new-imc helpers. It's old and long, but maybe it will help.
My suggestion is that the organising process and your contacts should
best be public. At least in the relatively-less-repressive countries
that seems best. But in Russia that can be dangerous if people do not
know and use basic internet security methods. You know the situation
better than i do, and how much transparency and openness is possible.
> So, i have to do all that you (Boud) did for IMC-Piter collective (can
> i use that expirience as guiding plan), yes?
The IMC network is non-authoritarian :) and tries to function by
consensus. So:
If you think what i did for IMC Piter was good and consistent with the
consensus of the network, then probably you should give the same type of
help.
If you think what i did for IMC Piter was *not* consistent with the
consensus of the network, then do something different, which you think
will be acceptable by the network.
> Sorry for stupid questions, but i'm a new-one as imc-helper, so i have
> to know, that i do everything correct.
What i just said is serious: we really don't know what is "correct" as
a socially just, and also efficient and systematic way to run our
network. So far we have some ideas and experience and hope that they
are useful to others. A lot (but not all) of these ideas and
experiences are written on the twiki (mostly in English only, sorry).
Think of it as Sartrean existentialism. There's no "God" out there to
decide for you, there is only Google - see
http://www.thechurchofgoogle.org/ - if you ask Her a question (pray to
Her), then She will immediately give you ten answers.
pozdr
boud
>> hi IMC Piter,
>>
>> Would someone (akop? someone else?) be able to help guide IMC YuG
>> through the new-imc organizing/ communication process? vladimir says
>> that your collectives are in contact with one another. :)
>>
>> https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/NewImcHowTo
>>
>> https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Local/ImcCEEurope
>>
>>
>> pozdr
>> boud
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 2 Apr 2008, kether2 at riseup.net wrote:
>>
>>> Submitted by: Vladimir <kether2 at riseup.net> on Wednesday, April
>>> 2nd, 2008 at 3:31:17 pm (-0700)
>>>
>>> Client Variables
>>> ----------------
>>>
>>> HTTP_USER_AGENT:
>>> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; ru; rv:1.8.1.13) Gecko/20080325
>>> Ubuntu/7.10 (gutsy) Firefox/2.0.0.13
>>>
>>> Online Form Fields
>>> ------------------
>>>
>>> proposed_imc_name:
>>> Индимедиа-
>>> ЮГ
>>>
>>> proposed_imc_url:
>>> http://yug.indymedia.ru
>>>
>>> current_url:
>>> http://yug.indymedia.ru
>>>
>>> city:
>>>
>>>
>>> state:
>>> Кубань
>>>
>>> country:
>>> Russia
>>>
>>> contact_name:
>>> Vladimir
>>>
>>> contact_email:
>>> kether2 at riseup.net
>>>
>>> contact_phone:
>>> 89104801903
>>>
>>> tech_name:
>>>
>>>
>>> tech_email:
>>>
>>>
>>> tech_phone:
>>>
>>>
>>> focus:
>>> regional_focus
>>>
>>> critical_dates:
>>>
>>>
>>> supporting_groups:
>>> There are many different groups, who are involved into developing
>>> this project. For example, group of media-activists from
>>> piter.indymedia.org
>>>
>>> introductory_statement:
>>> We want to participate in Indymedia network, because IMC is the
>>> best platform for creating free news sourse. We want to collect, to
>>> agregate in our IMC lots of information about political life in the
>>> South of Russia, that official mass-media won't publish.
>>>
>>> resources:
>>> We have a server, where our project exists and a bandwith about 10
>>> mbit/s, but we going to make it up to 100 soon. We have some
>>> organizing skills, because some of our members already have
>>> participated in creating IMC piter.indymedia.org
>>>
>>> outreach:
>>> We've made a meeting in town Krasnodar (it's one of most big cities
>>> in the south of Russia), where came about 30-40 people from
>>> different towns of Russia. We talked a lot about creating new IMC
>>> and we are still developing it in our maillist.
>>>
>>> identity_makeup:
>>> Our collective consists of people who are involved in different
>>> organisations in that region. Naturally that we haven't any
>>> restrictions in gender or cultural relations.
>>>
>>> steps_represent_diversity:
>>> We have a free publication technology on our site, so everyone can
>>> post something to our news block. And a member of any
>>> underrrepresented group can do this, and he even can make a contact
>>> with us via the site to me a member of our collective too.
>>>
>>> steps_involve_new_workfields:
>>> Now we are talking about that into maillist, because it's an
>>> important problem. We try to let the information be free, and we
>>> try to tell our members everything that we know about this
>>> workfield, rather new for some of our members.
>>>
>>> username:
>>> Vladimir
>>>
>>>
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>>> http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-process
>>>
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