[New-imc] (en) Re: [Fwd: [IMC-Process] IMC Corea]

[boud]

hi imc corea,

Great news that you're having another go at organising! :)
The huge amount of activism in S Korea could contribute a huge
amount to the network, and i'm sure the network would be happy to
support you as you get autonomously organised and networked.

On Fri, 9 Jan 2009, joe ttx wrote:

> -------- Message original --------
> Sujet : [IMC-Process] IMC Corea
> Date : Thu, 1 Jan 2009 07:30:23 -0800
> De : ethan hardy <eating_ethan at hotmail.com>
> Pour : imc-process global <imc-process at lists.indymedia.org>,
> <dopehead at jinbo.net>, <kimsynghyun7 at jinbo.net>, <jefejose at hotmail.com>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Here in Seoul, South Corea, there have been several efforts to make an
> IMC. These efforts have failed due to in-fighting and factionalism among
> some of the mainstream leftist groups here in Corea. Many groups and
> individuals here in South Corea recognize the need for an IMC. At the
> same time, there are some who feel that the predominance of english
> language in Indymedia is an obstacle for a potential Corean IMC. These
> issues should be discussed by those who are interested in creating an
> IMC Corea.

Most people in the indymedia network are aware of the problem of English
dominance and we try various ways of overcoming it. Spanish/Portuguese
speaking IMC's have lists in that pair of languages; there is also a 
francophone mailing list.

You are most welcome to network in your region and see if you can find
alternative language solutions.

The three active IMCs in East/South-East Asia have their mailing lists here:
  IMC Jakarta  http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-jakarta
  IMC Japan  http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-japan
  IMC Manila  http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-ph-manila
and you can find their web pages easily.

If you want to create IMC Corea and you want to choose one of the
four main national languages, or maybe Esperanto, to communicate in 
your region, of course that's your right. The main argument for Esperanto
is that people can learn it very fast, people from the different 
countries start out at equal learning levels.

There's no magic answer for language problems: even people who want
to avoid dominance by one language have to choose whether to spend more
time translating in a second lanugage, or rather just get something done
fast.

Maybe since you have such a huge activist level in (South) Korea,
probably some of you speak some of the different regional languages.
You could have one person introduce him/herself and join the imc-japan
mailing list to help communicate there nihongo ni, another person join
the imc-jakarta introduce him/herself di bahasa indonesia atau bahasa
jawa atau bahasa sunda, and another join imc-ph-manila.  You don't
have to wait until you have finished the organising process. The
organising process is all about networking and being autonomous and
sustainable without any centralised authority.



> I'm happy to announce that new efforts are being made for becoming part
> of the network. Media activists associated with Seoulidarity and the
> Korean Anarchist Network will have the first open meeting next week in
> order to make plans for establishing a website, connecting with other
> groups, mobilizing support, etc.
>
> We would appreciate any help, advice or solidarity that anyone can offer
> us.

Our best (a huge amount of) documentation is on our wiki, which is 
unfortunately down right at the moment. Try:

https://docs.indymedia.org/Local/

and look for links to the East/South-East Asia IMCs, but you might 
still need to wait some time.  There's also suggestions/guides about
getting organised/networked starting at:

https://docs.indymedia.org/Global/NewImcHowTo

Again, right now this website is *down*. You can find archived copies
  of these pages at http://archive.org

but that can be a little slow.

If you're interested in having a multilanguage site, you might
find the samizdat software, used by IMC Belarus, IMC Ukraine, IMC Torun,
and IMC-getting-organised Venezuela-Centro interesting. IMC Japan has
an experimental samizdat site started also.
  https://belarus.indymedia.org
  https://ukraine.indymedia.org
  https://torun.indymedia.org
  http://venezuela-centro.axxs.org
  http://g8.japan.indymedia.org

Esperanto is already implemented in samizdat. There is an esperanto
mailing list for global features - if you want to avoid english
dominance, and if some people in other regional imcs (jakarta, japan,
manila) were interested, you might want to try that:
  http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/www-esperanto/

It would very much be a bootstrap problem: if enough people in the
region agree and will learn/use esperanto, then it will become a useful
global indymedia language.  Just an idea...


solidarity and horizontalidad
boud (new-imc volunteer)

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> Please e-mail kimsynghyun7 at jinbo.net (Kim Syng Hyun), dopehead at jinbo.net
> (Dopehead Zo), or jefejose at hotmail.com (Jeffrey Lazar) for questions or
> comments.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Ethan
>
>
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