[Resolve] Introduction and Complaint against untouchable tech

Wed Feb 22 06:53:53 PST 2006

Hey,

anyone who thinks this should still go on the list ?
B

Galen Thurber <galen at flightsimhq.org> wrote:
> For starters here is what I had to deal with on the BLAG forums, Jebba
> moved his hate towards me onto the IMC IRC and began his misinformation
> to other IRCops.
> 
> 
> I was helping on the BLAG forum as I have done for many years online
> 
> 
> *galen*
> 	
> Post <http://forums.blagblagblag.org/viewtopic.php?p=6642#6642>Posted:
> Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:40 pm    Post subject: 	Reply with quote
> <http://forums.blagblagblag.org/posting.php?mode=quote&p=6642>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> I hit the same problem after I installed another distro that replaced my
> boot loader [grub like you]. as much as I like BLAG it can be flakey.
> did you rescue mode and
> *Code:*
> grub-install /dev/hda1
> grub-install /dev/hda
> 
> 
> ?
> Mind you when I had installed BLAG on a IBM laptop and used another boot
> loader, GRUB would never work again.
> No sense in reporting the bug, developers will say it works for them and
> dismiss it; linux never breaks ;^)
> 
> _________________
> online wise ass since 1993.
> flightsimhq founder.
> past distros: Debian, Mandrake, RedHat, arch, Ubuntu, ...
> distros: peanut/alinux (forum donator), simply mepis(i586), BLAG
> life banned from: Vector, Beatrix, Yahoo, linuxpackages, ...
> DE: xfce4, gnome
> 
> *blaggard*
> 	
> Post <http://forums.blagblagblag.org/viewtopic.php?p=6661#6661>Posted:
> Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:15 am    Post subject: 	Reply with quote
> <http://forums.blagblagblag.org/posting.php?mode=quote&p=6661>
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> Galen,
> 
> Thanks for your suggestions. I will give it a try.
> 
> Blaggard
> 
> *blaggard*
> 	
> Post <http://forums.blagblagblag.org/viewtopic.php?p=6662#6662>Posted:
> Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:18 am    Post subject: 	Reply with quote
> <http://forums.blagblagblag.org/posting.php?mode=quote&p=6662>
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> As a follow-up to my original posting, could it be that my MBR somehow
> got corrupted? In that case, how can I recover the MBR? Or can I
> do a psuedo re-install and get the GRUB thing reinstalled without
> touching my existing installation.
> 
> Appreciate any suggestions.
> 
> Blaggard
> 
> *jebba*
> 	
> Post <http://forums.blagblagblag.org/viewtopic.php?p=6663#6663>Posted:
> Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:59 am    Post subject: 	Reply with quote
> <http://forums.blagblagblag.org/posting.php?mode=quote&p=6663>
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> *galen wrote:*
> No sense in reporting the bug, developers will say it works for them and
> dismiss it; linux never breaks ;^)
> 
> 
> 
> Galen,
> 
> I'd just like you to fuck off. Now I see why you've been "banned" from
> so many distros.
> 
> I've never said blag or linux or gnu has never had a problem. But you do
> such extensive changes to your system YOU DO BREAK IT. You also rarely
> give enough info to help you in any real way, then just move on to the
> next issue.
> 
> For instance, you had some problem with some module. I then saw in some
> later thread that you are running binary (proprietary) drivers. You
> failed to mention this in your other report, yet it's hugely important.
> This is a common mistake of newbies (not knowing what to report), but
> you've been around the block enough to know what is relevant.
> 
> You're just a time sink. Please go away.
> 
> -Jeff
> 
> 
> You will notice the abuse from Jeff, and to note he falsely claims I
> broke my system when that was not true, also misleading is his claim I
> am a time sink. I have [had at that time] several installs of BLAG linux
> and a few clean installs broke, there were no (proprietary) drivers as
> he calims at fault or even in use on a few installs that broke, he in
> other posts claims I was using a module called 'grip' that broke my
> system, in fact it is part of the linux kernel and that was shown to
> him. He was just fabricating reasons to boot and abuse me. He just wont
> admit he was abusive and wrong. Never did I abuse him , in fact I have
> praised and supported his work and thought of him as a fine advocate;
> how wrong I was.
> 
> Ben you claim I dont post any evidence but yet expect me to obtain logs
> from other's machine. See any problems there.
> The strong impression I get on IMC is that one has to prove innocence
> once one is abused by an IMC tech. What about proof?
> Where is process? I keep hitting a double standard.
> 
> Ben you draw an impression of me from misleading info given by micah,
> there is context to be understood. My comments are very assertive and
> frustration over many delays in resolving the abuse are evidence in my
> chat, but this is after many days of being abused. I was dished alot of
> shit. Back to the facts, I was unjustly banned numerous times [and at
> this moment I am banned for 7 days on the public IMC IRC for no reason
> and no appeal].
> 
> Put yourself in my situation. You support a cause and group and one day
> you are told to fuck off and lies are spread about you. Would you not
> fight back to clear your name. Would you wonder why at every turn you
> are banned from compaining or finding a reason behind the hate against
> you. Seems human for anyone to fight back. So what if others don't like
> my style, people should be judged on the facts, for IMC to judge me on
> my style without knowing the facts is sickening and hypocritical.
> 
> I'm in the process of repairing my computers that were attacked and I
> have to consolidate my logs, so I will post more facts unless I get banned.
> 
> Galen
> 
> 
> ben wrote:
> 
> >Hi all,
> >reading through the issues, being active  in no IRC at all, my
> >impression is the following:
> >
> >Galen sent his first mail to this list, mainly criticizing being banned
> >from irc.
> >When he was asked for reasons several times, there came no response or
> >examlpary logs from IRC discussions, which would paint a picture of how
> >he was mistreated.
> >The only IRC-logs came from Micah, which gave me the impression, that
> >the ops decided quite reasonable. Through these logs and through the
> >words that have been used in the current debate (ashole, etc.)
> >I see it as the best way forward, if Galen would take a step back and
> >reflects with some friends or professionals how it comes that so many
> >people get the impression that his behaviour is that of a "troll". This
> >reflection might bring big benefit to the issue of about how debates
> >should be run fair and constructively.
> > I didn't have the impression, that discussing this issue here on this
> >list will be of much help for anybody involved.
> >
> >@Galen: If you have a different opinion, please don't continuing arguing
> >without quotes and please don't insult any other persons. This only
> >strengthens my  (and I assume other's as well) impression that your
> >behaviour is that of a troll. Not saying that you are one, but you
> >behave like one, in the current debate...and from that I can imagine how
> >it was in the past in IRC-channels. I would love to be wrong, but
> >therefore I'd need proofs(through your future behaviour or
> >words)/logs/whatever...
> >
> >In the moment I don't see a chance for "Mediation" (all parties comming
> >to a mutual based decision).
> >Due to the level of escalation, "Arbitration" seems to be more
> >appropriate, which means a "third party" makes the decision.
> >In this case, this "third party" would the "IMC-Resolve-List", which was
> >originally adressed by Galen in his first mail and can be seen as the
> >"third party" between IRCops and Galen.
> >
> >Therefore  I would love to read comments from other  people subscribed...
> > 
> >Sorry, for perhaps some strange english, but I it's not my mothertongue
> >and I am short in time these days, but wanted to post my opinion on that
> >issue.
> >With more time, I'd love tpo comment on the Darwin-Debate, but that may
> >take some time...
> > 
> >
> >Love & solidarity,
> >
> >
> >Ben
> >
> >  
> >
> 
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