[Sfbay-space] Re: [Ecr] proposal re: imc space

[mark burdett]

no, my proposal was that IMC would move in to
the ECR room (since that would be easier than
ECR moving in to the IMC room).

ECR started out in the IMC office, then merged
in to what was the SFLR news office as an IMC
project, per a sort of treaty agreement ;)

per IMC reorganization earlier this year, ECR
is one of the collectives which makes up the
sf bay area IMC (others including Indybay
website collective and Fault Lines print
collective)

my proposal was for IMC to go back to renting
only 1 office in the suite instead of two,
since the back office isn't being used and no
one is working on fundraising.

The rent for the ECR office would go up as it 
would include IMC's portion of DSL.

Of course, if anyone wants to use the IMC back
office (and help fundraise for it) then i
wouldn't support my proposal.

--mark

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:45:31 -0700, a. mark liiv wrote:
> hey everyone,
> let me bring up a point of clarification about 
> how the space is rented out over in suite 216. i 
> guess mark has forgotten this, but the imc 
> officially rents that back room as its office and 
> gets to use the front space as well.
> 
> basically because the imc is a public serving 
> institution and because everyone else in the 
> suite gets access to the front space computers 
> and generally supports indybay, the imc gets to 
> use the front room as its own space IN ADDITION 
> to the back room.
> 
> if the back office is gotten rid of then that 
> doesn't mean that IMC doesn't have to pay rent 
> anymore!
> 
> we would need to discuss, probably at a suite 
> meeting, what IMC should pay if it wants to get 
> rid of the back room. since it's never used 
> except as storage, then it probably is a good 
> idea to get rid of it so that there is more 
> active use of this precious resource (personally 
> i don't yet see why faultlines or an indybay 
> project couldn't be using that room).
> 
> so, i guess i would like to hear what the IMC 
> proposal for paying rent for the front room would 
> be. how could it get any cheaper for the group? 
> it's the best deal anyone has in the suite, and 
> still indybay fell behind for 4 months on rent!!!
> 
> a. mark
> (aka dj sweety)
> 
> 
> 
> >well,
> >really no one has been working on fundraising for imc or ecr for the
> >past year, even though both together have to pay around $300/month for
> >the two offices (including internet and the phone line).
> >
> >also no one is working on maintaining or using the imc back office
> >aside from nicole (the intern) getting the phone out of there each day.
> >
> >no one ever uses the imc back office as far as i know.  there are a a
> >few files in there which are accessed once a month (for bank account
> >statements etc. for the imc/ecr bank account) and that is the only use
> >of the room i am aware of for the past year.
> >
> >so i don't see any affect on ecr -- even in march 2003 when things
> >were very busy we only had one office for both ecr and imc -- aside from
> >reduced rent cost.
> >
> >if suddenly imc people wanted to use the office for non-ecr stuff,
> >presumably they would work around any scheduled ecr use.
> >
> >--mark
> >
> >On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 05:01:18 +0000, rubble9 at comcast.net wrote:
> >> what are the potential positive and negative's involved?
> >>
> >> -------------- Original message --------------
> >>
> >> > hey
> >> >
> >> > does anyone see a problem with a proposal to merge the imc and ecr
> >> > spaces? this would mean that imc files would be stored in the ecr
> >> > studio and imc folks could have a key to ecr, but also other imc
> >> > collectives (web and print) would share rent costs with ecr.
> >> >
> >> > --mark
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