[Sfbay-video] Re: [Sfbay] retreat

[Zachary Ogren]

We have been discussing the retreat on the main list for months. We 
really need to make sure we have a list that all subgroups read for 
exactly this reason. Lately general meetings have only been editorial 
people and we had a few where almost nobody showed up (there was one 
where it was just Mahtin and I think one where it was just me and Mahtin 
and those were meetings announced 1/2 year in advance). The purpose of 
the general list and general meetings is so we can make decissions for 
the whole group (like organizing a retereat) but its really impossible 
to do that when nobody comes to meetings and few people read the list. 
The purpose of the retreat was to help get everyone together to deal 
with problems that effect the whole group, but unfortunately it seems 
like some of those problems may get in the way of having everyone attend 
the retreat (ie we need the retreat to discuss better ways to 
communicate but we have no common list that allows us to communicate as 
a group to even get people to the retreat)

I think its really important that people show up for this retreat if we 
are to work through problems we have as a group. Some of those problems 
mean that we will probably not have a facilitator and there hasnt been 
much communication about an agenda. Even though the retreat could be 
better, at least if we can try to get together and figure out how to 
better structure things we might be able to get communications to a 
point where we can do things like plan better retreats etc...

-Z

sfschism at riseup.net wrote:

>hey, all -
>thanks for the invite to the indybay retreat...
>unfortunately, it kind of sucks that there wasn't more advanced notice. 
>it sounds like the internal indybay collective wants people to be there. 
>a thought for future planning: if you truly want to be inclusive and
>involve people in discussions and retreats, it would help to let them at
>least know the date way in advance, especially for those that have jobs
>and need to plan around work schedules.  i know that there have been
>sporadic updates that a retreat was being planned, but I haven't seen any
>info on these lists about confirmed dates or times prior to this, and it
>sounds like people have known about it for awhile now...
>anyhow... just a thought, but one that I think goes a long way towards
>fostering communication and showing an appreciation for people's busy
>lives, especially those who have expressed an interest in getting
>involved, but have not felt able to, for whatever reason.
>paz,
>Sunny
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