[www-editoriales] Re: [www-features] feature proposal : Chavéz, Chevron and Microsoft

[taka at riseup.net]

Creo que la solucion es hacer un feature nuevo, com la distincion entre la
revolucion bolivariana e el gobierno chávez. Las informaciones sobre los
acuerdos con microsoft y texaco tienem que ser propagandeadas, nosostros no
seremos cumplices o cegos com eso.

André

Citando César Gerena <gerenapr at riseup.net>:

> {en}
> I completely agree, this feature is away from reality.
> {es}
> 
> DE Acuerdo, este feature no debe pasar, esta ditanciado de la realidad
> latinoamericana.
> 
> Gerena
> PR IMC
> 
> > [en]
> > My main concern is the wording which suggests that Chavez's government
> and
> > the Bolivarian revolution are the same thing.  Chavez certainly does
> > support certain neoliberal projects.  However we should not use this as
> an
> > excuse to disparage the multitude of social actors who struggle in
> their
> > rural and urban communities, against capitalism and for
> self-sustaining
> > ways of living.  My general feeling is that this proposal was written
> with
> > no understanding whatever of what it is like to be poor in Venezuela,
> and
> > is simply playing out a personal vendetta.
> >
> > [es]
> > Mi objeción principal es la fraseología que sugiere que el gobierno de
> > Chavez y la revolución Bolivariana sean la misma cosa. Chavez apoya,
> > ciertamente, ciertos proyectos neoliberal. Sin embargo no debemos
> utilizar
> > esto como excusa para desacreditar la multiplicidad de los agentes
> > sociales que luchan en sus comunidades rurales y urbanas, contra
> > capitalismo y para las maneras independientes económicamente de vivir.
> Mi
> > sensación general es que esta propuesta fue escrita sin entender la
> > experiencia de los pobres en Venezuela, y está simplemente un resultado
> de
> > un vendetta personal.
> >
> > bb
> >
> >> I raise objections because it does not elaborate the plans and social
> >> misions the organized comunities have fight for. Profits of this
> >> business
> >> of the venezuelan government are used fully in social development of
> >> programs.
> >>
> >> Trying to put Chavez in the same room as Bush and Lula is and
> >> extraordinary lie such as the lies that the referendum was stained
> with
> >> fraud as some IMC and other alternative media tried to make believe.
> >>
> >> Please, let's have a talk, a debate about this.
> >>
> >> Gerena,
> >> PR IMC
> >>
> >> ESPAñOL/SPANISH:
> >>
> >> Yo levanto mi objeción, y bloqueo si se puede este feature. No
> elabora
> >> en
> >> que las ganancias de los negocios del gobierno venezolano son para
> >> invertir directamente en programas y misiones sociales en las
> >> comunidades
> >> organizadas por millones en Venezuela.
> >>
> >> Intentar pintar a Chavez en el mismo caurto neoliberal de Bush Y Lula
> >> seria una afrenta y una gran mentira como aquella que publicaron en
> >> medios
> >> alternativos sobre que habia fraude en el referendum venezolano.
> >>
> >> Por favor, que se discuta con mayor profundidad.
> >>
> >> Gerena,
> >>
> >> CMI-Puerto Rico
> >>
> >>> hi,
> >>>
> >>> for me it's fine. I can put in into html this afternoon if nobody
> has
> >>> objections,
> >>>
> >>> greetings, Guido_
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi everyone... =)
> >>>> This is a feature made by the IMC Brasil... i just translated into
> >>>> english... There are more links about the subject in the uruguay
> >>>> imc...
> >>>> i
> >>>> need to find that... it is not in html...
> >>>> What do you guys think?
> >>>>
> >>>> Pina
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Title: Chavéz, Chevron and Microsoft
> >>>>
> >>>> Despite all the expectations of depeem the bolivarian process, the
> >>>> presidente Hugo Chavés Frias, made 2 partnership with the
> >>>> multinacionals
> >>>> companies Chevron-Texaco and Microsoft. Both agreements was signed
> >>>> before
> >>>> the referedum took place, but was deliberately mugged by the
> >>>> progressive
> >>>> media and ignored by the conservative media.
> >>>> One of them is a binacional gasoduto, sponsor by the Venezuela
> >>>> government
> >>>> and the Colombia government and coordinated by the american
> >>>> multinacional
> >>>> Chevron-Texaco. Acording to Chavéz it´s a “direct way out of this
> >>>> giant
> >>>> asian market”. To construct the gasoduto, Venezuela volunteer enter
> in
> >>>> the
> >>>> Pan Pueblo Panamá, a collection of infra-structure with the
> objective
> >>>> to
> >>>> answer to the american multinacionals needs.
> >>>> Parallel to that, the Venezuela´s governmet, through the education
> >>>> ministry  signed with Microsoft a contract to proved softwares to
> the
> >>>> schools across the country, contradicting the incentive police to
> free
> >>>> software, wich the government was adopting until Felipe Péres left
> the
> >>>> Planification and Development Ministry. According to Richard
> Stallman,
> >>>> the
> >>>> creator of the GNU movement (free software) “The Venezuela´s
> >>>> government
> >>>> just made a critical error, wich consequences will give the to a
> >>>> global
> >>>> corporation: make a contract with Microsoft to use the program in
> the
> >>>> schools.”
> >>>> The silence and the non-resistence of the popular movements just
> >>>> amplified
> >>>> this situation, disarticulated by the expectations of the left
> >>>> government
> >>>> speech. In case Chavéz continue with immune posture before popular
> >>>> movements, we will see those movements fight against the local
> >>>> bourgeoisie
> >>>>  just to let a free way to the global bourgeoisie, wich has no
> problem
> >>>> to
> >>>> negotiate with the “bolivarian revolution”.
> >>>>
> >>>> Links :
> >>>> http://brasil.indymedia.org [pt]
> >>>> http://www.revistarebeldia.org/revistas/019/rebeldia_19.pdf [es]
> >>>> http://www.midiaindependente.org/pt/blue/2004/08/289135.shtml [pt]
> >>>> http://www.midiaindependente.org/pt/blue/2004/08/289140.shtml [pt]
> >>>>
> >>>>
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