[www-editoriales] [www-features] PROPOSAL: Mulitlingual Indymedia
toya at riseup.net
Mon Sep 20 11:55:08 PDT 2004
i believe that the problem is deeper then you think..we also had in the past some problem with features maded up about places in the south that weren't actually the reality over there...and for that as well i believe we have the www-editoriales so ppl from the south can have a place to discuss and put up their proposals...
i believe that on our log from our meeting we talked about it...bout if a features is about, for example, argentina..it should pass here first before going up to the site...same way if us make a features about germany...we should send to features before it goes up....
i dont konw...but that are some details that we have to talk and figure out how to make them work...so that is why pina was refering when he said we dont know how we will be working etc...
eu acho q o problem eh mais profundo do q vc pensa..nos jah tivemos problemas no passado com editoriais q foram feitos sobre lugares no sul que nao refletiam a realidade do lugar...e por causa disso que o www-editoriales foi feito...para que as pessoas do sul possam discutir e colocar seus proprios editoriais...
eu acho q no log da nossa reuniao a gente fala sobre isso.. se um editorial for sobre, por exemplo, argentina..entao ele deve passar na lista editoriales antes de ir pro site...da mesma maneira se a gente criar um editorial sobre a alemanha..devemos passar o editorial na features antes de ir pro site...
nao sei... mas existem alguns detalhes que nos temos que sentar e conversar para resolver como que eles devem funcionar...entao, eu acho q era sobre isso que o pina se referia quando ele disse que nos nao sabemos ainda como vamos estar trabalhando etc...
Em Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 10:42:39PM +0200, clara escreveu:
> dear all,
> I am at loss what process issues are the reason for for this block.
> In order to deal with the fact that the global indymedia network is
> heavily biased towards (native and non-native) english speakers, we came
> up with the idea to make a second list to put up features on www.indy.
> Such a list should work in the same way as www-features only in spanish.
> (portuguese was then added later).
> It was explicetly said that the only difference would be that
> www-features would deall with all proposals made in english, and
> www-editoriales would take everything in Spanish/Portuguese. So, the
> difference is only the language.
> The same procedure means: everything that's proposed can be posted after
> 6 hours, including comments that are made by others, and unless somebody
> has serious concerns.
> I don't speak Spanish, so I assumed that somebody else from with
> experiences from www-features had explained that in more detail. Maybe
> that didn't take place, so maybe somebody else can still do that.
> (A note on the chavez-feature in case that's the problem: a couple of
> times in the last years we had long discussions on the content of an
> individual posting, which could not always be solved, because we know to
> little about our respective backgrounds, and because this working group
> is not necessarily based on a common political ideology down to the last
> details. The fact that spanish and english proposals were made at the
> same time was our worst case scenario, and we need a practical solution
> for these unlikely cases.)
> However, the feature proposal is not touching anything of this process.
> It's only meant to point out that people from the different imcs can now
> propose features in spanish/portuguese as well.
> The idea to make it as a feature also comes from the need to explain
> translators how to include links in their translations.
> I hope that clears up the problems.
> love and solidarity
> > [en]
> > Hi Clara and all
> > I agree to block this feature for now. Clara as you have seen in features
> > that the proposal about wich features should go trough editoriales had
> > some problems. I´m i bit confused right now about the process of that
> > list, and i think that this confusion is general. There are some points
> > the has not been dicussed appropriatelly, like the features that goes
> > trough this list, or how long should we wait before put up a feature. I
> > think we should dicuss this better, before we call more ppl to join this
> > momentary confusion.
> > I also think that we have to discuss this issues right away, any ideias
> > how to do that??? by the list? or another irc meeting???
> > =)
> > Pina
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